This year marks the 10th anniversary of Tunisia’s "Jasmine Revolution," the precursor of the Arab Spring. It led to the removal of Zine El-Abidine Ben Ali and set Tunisia on the path to democracy. But today, the Tunisian state must tackle worsening public finances, rising migration issues and a rather one-sided relationship with the European Union. What can we learn from this decade of democracy? Youssef Chahed, Prime Minister of Tunisia between 2016 and 2020, talks about his experience in an extensive interview with Institut Montaigne.
This is taken from three interviews with Youssef Chahed, conducted between February and March 2021 by Senior fellow at Institut Montaigne, Hakim El Karoui.
Hakim El Karoui: As someone who was the head of the country for three and a half years, you are well-positioned to comment on how the democratic system in Tunisia is progressing. Ten years after the start of the revolution, how is democracy working out?
Youssef Chahed: Since we’re celebrating the tenth anniversary of the Tunisian Revolution, now is certainly a good time to review ten years of democracy. To me, democracy is alive and well in Tunisia; we have free elections by universal suffrage, where the results are not contested. We have also made important gains in both societal and individual freedoms, such as freedom of expression and freedom of the press.
However, in some respects, democracy has not lived up to the expectations of the Tunisian public: it has neither brought economic prosperity nor well-being, and it hasn’t fulfilled promises of social equality and a narrowing of regional inequalities. But democratic institution-building continues to strengthen, and Tunisians remain committed to it.
HEK: Of course, we’ve seen institutions mature and evolve, but we’ve also noticed a significant rise in populism and isolationism: a nostalgia for the old regime and global populism. This is obviously an issue at the national level, but do you consider it a global problem?
YC: Looking back on the past ten years of Tunisia’s democratic experiment in the wider context of Arab countries that are seeking to democratize, it’s vital that the experiment succeeds not just in Tunisia but in all the other Arab nations.
During the transition to democracy, the challenges involved in building a democratic system were considerable for us as an Arab country. The civility of the state, freedom of conscience, political Islam and issues related to Islamist terrorism were some of the considerable challenges to be faced. Since 2016, Tunisian democracy has also been heavily affected by an international climate increasingly unfavorable to representative democracies, with adverse winds blowing in Europe and the United States, along with the influence of social media. Consequently, since 2019 Tunisia has seen a rise in populism that pits the rational and realistic approach of the state against the discourse that is trending on social media.
The global rise in populism has led to declining support for representative democracies, which has had a major impact in Tunisia. While this is less of a risk in developed countries, where the institutions are firmly established, the Tunisian populist movement could wreak havoc on a democracy whose institutions are too young to face such delegitimization. But I am hopeful that this remains a temporary phenomenon. Remember that we witnessed a populist wave in 2011, at the very start of the revolution and against the backdrop of political Islam. Perhaps the situation will improve once again with the international movement and the arrival of Joe Biden, who could set the tone for a new democratic impulse. I can see the populist wave, which already seems to be losing steam, beginning to decline in Tunisia.
HEK: Political Islam is another challenge facing Tunisian democracy. How much political clout does it have and how was it possible to form a secular-Islamist coalition?
YC: Indeed, we had to build a democracy in a region that has been characterized by the emergence of political Islam. As political Islam is, by definition, against freedom of conscience and the civility of the state, its increasing popularity has made the process of transforming the Tunisian state more complex. Over the past ten years, Tunisia has gained considerable experience in dealing with political Islam.
Personally, I am against political Islam. In 2014, President Béji Caïd Essebsi chose to create a coalition with the Islamists. It was certainly not a strategic alliance, and it came about for two reasons. Of course, it was important that the President respect the results of the election. In those 2014 elections, the Islamist party Ennahdha had come second with 69 seats. However, the objective of President Béji’s decision was to protect the civility of the state and its achievements from a latent Islamization of the country.
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